M2H2 is a Value 4 Value music show where we automatically switch to the artists' wallet when playing their songs. Unless otherwise noted, 95% of all value sent during a time-split in a modern podcast app, or thought the Split Kit page, will be sent directly to the artist(s) of the song being played.
Our first guest, Suzanne Santo, shares her journey from the traditional music industry to the Valueverse, highlighting the challenges and rewards of this new model. She discusses her track "Worried," reflecting on the impact of social media and the music industry's demands on artists.
We also welcome our second guest, Abel James, who shares his experiences and insights into the evolving music landscape. Abel talks about his track "Voodoo Queen" and the joy of creating music in a space that values artistic freedom and direct support from listeners.
Throughout the episode, we feature a diverse range of tracks from the Valueverse, including new releases from artists like Ben P. Williams, Theo Katzmann, and Emily D'Ranged. We also discuss the upcoming Adam Curry's Boostogram Ball Live in Austin, Texas on December 16, 2024, where artists like Suzanne Santo and Abel James will perform.
Join us as we celebrate the power of music and community in the Valueverse, where boosting is love, and every listener can contribute to the artists they enjoy. Don't forget to tune in next week for more exciting guests and music!
Chapters in this Episode:
(00:00:00) GO PODCASTING!
(00:00:02) Show Opening
(00:04:17) Introduction/Show Rules/Welcome to Suzanne
(00:08:44) We Can All Singalong
(00:11:39) It's a Mood Promo
(00:12:17) Programming note and Suzanne discussed the music industry and the Valueverse
(00:16:04) A Sign of Things to Come
(00:23:38) The backstory of "Worried" by Suzanne Santo
(00:32:08) UpBEATS promo
(00:36:19) Thank you to Suzanne, welcoming Abel James, and Abel shares his origins to the Valueverse
(00:40:01) Should Have Known Better
(00:43:40) "Éclair Serenade" Introduction
(00:47:30) Abel James discusses the differences between the traditional music industry and the Valueverse
(00:55:02) Abel James shares the backstory of his song "Voodoo Queen"
(01:00:49) Phantom Power Music Hour Promo
(01:05:56) Abel talks about why he loves "The Itch" and "Whole Lotta Trouble"
(01:07:18) Whole Lotta Trouble
(01:11:13) Lightning Thrashes Promo
(01:15:39) Last break segment with a huge thanks to Abel James and final review of the rules of M2H2
(01:18:44) METAL IN THE BANJO
(01:21:40) Closing ISOs
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It's very important you don't stink today. Hey. I make no guarantees.
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This value for value music show was produced at Johns Creek Studios in Milton, West Virginia. To learn more, head over to Johns Creek Studios dotcom. Johns Creek Studios, where podcast dreams come to life.
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Well, take us there, Skitch.
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Up in the mountains where the tallpines sway, folks gather around at the end of the day. No ticket needed. Just bring your sats. Value for value. How cool is that? M 2h 2. Let's raise a cheer with value for value. The vision stays clear.
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That was is this it. By almost December, found that one brand new in the value verse as I prepared the show for this week. We're here on episode number 25. It's December 3, 2024. Remember that this show is all about bringing value for value. We're bringing you the artists, and we want you to then in turn provide value back to them. I have a friend who's gonna join us here in just a second, so let me get his attention. He seems to have fallen asleep on the other side of the studio here. Andy. Andy. Yes, Randy? Andy, can you do me a favor, and can you share the rules of m two h two with the audience just to remind them what they are? Rule number 1,
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you must listen in a modern podcast app. Rule number 2, you must stream sats while you listen. Rule number 3, if you like the song, you must boost. Boosting is love.
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Thank you very much, Andy. I also wanna welcome to the show someone who's been brand new to the value verse. We played her on the show last week, and that is Suzanne Santo.
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I'm, like, very excited to be part of the Valueverse, and and I'm excited to figure it out as I go. We are so happy to to have you here, Suzanne.
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And remember, as as the podfather says, we're all running with scissors. We're trying to figure this stuff out as we go too. We're lucky that it all just seems to work. We're gonna dive in to our next track. We're gonna go for a track set of 2 coming up here in just a second. And to kick that off, we're gonna reach out to one of my favorite artists in the value verse and check out this track from Ambleton called recovery.
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You know I'm not where I wanna be, but I'm here right now. I guess that this is recovery, and I should settle down.
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Give me a song that I won't sing it louder
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Check out the It's a Moon value for value music podcast. I'm your host, Mike Newman. Kiddie. It's like taking a trip around the radio dial. Boost. It's a hit. I'm a Gen x mix tape kid. Since I
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I heard this one on the It's A Mood podcast, fell in love with it immediately.
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Jazz, prop, alt, alt, punk, r and b, cinematic, EDM, soul, classical, doesn't matter. I follow one simple rule. If I like it, I play it.
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It's a mood, hosted by Mike Newman, a great value for value show out there. Please go. Take the time and check it out, and give Mike some support, as well as the artist he plays on that show. Before that promo, though, we had a track from Ben p Williams from his album Benthousiasm called We Can All sing along. Awesome track. Another one that I found while prepping for the show this week. It's newer in the value verse, and I just felt like it needed to be played here on m two h two. Programming note, and I'll remind you this over the next couple weeks. The week of Christmas. Christmas Eve is on a Tuesday when the show is typically live. There will not be a show that Tuesday evening. Instead, we are going to do the show the day before on Monday, December 23rd.
So if you need to mark your calendars, go right ahead. But Monday, December 23rd at 8 PM that evening. So it's gonna be an hour later than usual. We'll have a live stream and recording of m two h two taking place here from Johns Creek Studios in beautiful Milton, West Virginia. We still have our guest here on the show, Suzanne Santo. Suzanne, what's what's the time you've seen so far? What what's your experience been like with the Valueverse versus what you've seen from the traditional
[00:13:40] Unknown:
music industry? It's funny. You know, the music industry, unless you're a touring musician, which I am, but I'm a mother of a 13 month old and I have a stepdaughter and, like, I love to be with my family. But, like, unless you're touring all the time, like, it's really hard to make a living. And I let go of my pain with that a long time ago. I I really feel like it. For a while, I was just sort of, like, submitting to the fact that it was like, this is an active service at this point. I'm making my own records and putting my own money into it, and then I'd rather do that than have a record company own my music at this point. And I've I've done that for many years. I've I've had lots of record deals and stuff, but, like, I'm just really interested in how this is all working. And and even if I'm not in the the club anymore, which I'm really happy not to be, like the, you know, the Spotify, the that old song and dance music industry. I I'm looking for a new crowd. You know? I'm looking for a community that cares about art and and values it, and not just with music, but with film and television and and all kinds of things. And I think that, I think there's a real deficit of good content in in our lives now where, like, you know, everything's screened and and people's attention spans are that of a field mouse. We're trained. You know, we're trained in these 12 second clips or whatever is happening to our children. Oh, yeah. The the algo has got us hooked big time. I mean, it's it's it's bad. But so far in the value verse, Suzanne, what what results have you have you seen? So far, I've made more money on the value verse than I have in 3 years on Spotify. Nice. Yeah.
Spotify, I've had, like I I've had some some good, you know, runs here and there with, like, my first solo record and my old band and, like but I remember, like, a couple years back, like, getting my quarterly statements from BMI, and and it's saying, like, you know, I had, like, 32,000 plays on one of my songs, and I got $5. Oh. And so that kind of thing, it it and it used to break my heart. I'm happy that so far, I've got, like, a couple tanks of gas out of this thing. Nice.
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We'll get back with you in just a second, Suzanne, because we got 2 more tracks to play that we're gonna go, and we're gonna listen to your track worried, but I wanna hear the story behind that song, before we play it. Before that, though, we're gonna go to our next track, and this is from Ben Jonesy Jones, and it is called a sign of things to come.
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See? 1,000 of years stuck to the ocean bottom out of the blue.
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Theo Katzmann with be the wheel. Heard about that track from sir TJ the raffle. Theo is a was a member of or is a member of the band, Wolf Peck. He kinda stuck the middle finger up to Spotify a couple years back, early on and got a fan group to, stream an album on repeat that was nothing but silence. And Spotify was then forced to pay out, kind of a, like, you know, a little middle finger to Spotify. Theo released that song is here into the value verse recently. And thank you TJ for finding that track and sharing it with all of us here in the value verse. We're gonna go right now and get ready to listen to a song we heard last week, but she's here, so I wanna give her a chance to tell us about it. So, Suzanne, if you can, just intro, give us the backstory on your track, worried.
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Full transparency. I lived in Los Angeles for a long time, for 20 years, and I'm originally from Cleveland, Ohio. I'm a Midwesterner at heart. When I lived in Los Angeles, I'm ashamed to say some of my politics were misinformed, and I found myself on a side that, was making me crazy, amongst other things like my cell phone and social media. And I felt like it was like an abusive relationship or something where you you kind of sacrifice your own agency, and it made me a little crazy. I I found myself worried all the time about everything. And that's not to say switching my politics, which I've done, makes me any less worried. I'm probably more worried now. I just have a better relationship with it. But I found that just the way even just let's take politics out of it. Just the way that we're informed now with global news in your pocket every second of the day, There's something very inhuman and unnatural about it, and I've had to work hard to maintain better relationship with with it and myself, which is I pretty much take it off my phone at all times unless I need to post something for music, which is a really interesting topic to bring up, especially talking about the value verse and this song because I found myself in this position as as the music industry has progressed, you have to have all these things in order to have a career. Like, you have to have your social media. You have to be active on it. And in these ways that, again, are inhuman and become contrived and I'm like a musician performer since I was a child, and and I've always loved it. And there used to be a time when, like, you'd make videos and it was fun, and you'd kinda have a new bit or something. And I'm I'm a big fan of comedy, so I've enjoyed those aspects of social media to a degree. But then when it became a requirement like TikTok, like, I just won't do it. I'd rather be, present in my life. And so worried kinda came out of this feeling of just being taken over by all of it. You know, the sum of all the parts of of social media, whether you're on x or Instagram or Facebook or whatever, TikTok. You're kind of relinquishing your natural ability to connect with people, and and you have these weird versions of yourself that aren't genuine. Put a filter on so your skin looks nicer and that kind of stuff. I'm really fascinated by and saddened mostly for our kids, but fascinated by how this has affected people and their mental health. So, you know, I know how it affected me, and I'm I feel grateful to to say that I got out of it. I don't let it take me over anymore.
Mhmm. But I've always been a sensitive kid. I used to watch this show Rescue 911, and, like, it would be these, like it would be like a disaster show. Oh, yeah. It would be like, you know, that's like the one show. Right? It would keep me up at night. You know, like, this kid fell down a well, and they had to go get her. And, you know, this kid got dragged into a lake by an alligator. And so I I would have this, like, catastrophizing even then just from the one little show that was the closest to reality TV in the nineties, which that never happened, but it did. Here we are. I've always had this worrisome way about me thinking the worst. And now it's like a way that people communicate, and it's like the only way some people live. And I have empathy for it, but I also know better. This song is part of my catharsis and understanding of my own self discovery as they all are really. But, yeah, that's where it comes from.
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I
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worry
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all day
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because I let you take the wheel. Then you drove me crazy, made me feel the way you feel. Now
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Upbeats is I love salty crayons. Upbeats is my favorite. It's like it's like the old pirate radio days. Hell, yeah. If you're tired of the same mainstream crap, where they're just playing slave music all day, then come on over to Upbeats with me, salty crayon, where I'm playing like the gen x kid I am, mixtape music. No genres here, just producers. And when you're not slaving away at your job, go ahead and put me on throughout your day. Hell, yeah. That's Upbeatz with Salty Crayon.
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It's a great name, buddy. Salty Crayon is a great DJ name. I love that.
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Fooling, fooling. People wanna hear a heartbreak in a hotel room. Missin' the person lying next to you. Wanna know how it hurts and how you're holding on by your face.
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2 ways home hear a heartbreak. That's a brand new one out there. That album came out November 1st. 2 ways home is a duo from the UK, and they've put that out into the value verse so that we can enjoy it, we can love it, and we can send value back to them for what they've shared. I wanna thank Suzanne for giving up some time to join us here on the show this week. It was a great chance to to talk with her and to let her share the story of her song worried as well as what her experience has been like here in the value verse.
Suzanne is going to, I believe, be appearing on December 16th. That's a short time from now in Austin, Texas at Anton's, for the, live event taking place that night, Adam Curry's boostogram ball live. If you could be there live, tickets are available. You can go to the show and enjoy it. If you can't be there live, like, I personally will not be able to travel to Austin, Texas for this show. You can catch it live in a modern podcast app. It'll be streaming live. If you interact with the show, sending in boosts and things, there'll be some interactive elements that take place there, in the building.
We do have a second guest joining us tonight here on m two h two, and that is a man whose music I have found to be absolutely enjoyable. I love it. Abel James, why don't you tell us a little bit about your origins into the value verse?
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Yeah. It's a strange little world. It feels early. But, I have a few gray hairs now after all these years. And so I was around kinda kicking around the music scene as a teenager in the late nineties. So, like, I remember a time when you could upload your music and even sell your music, not just through streaming, but also through direct downloads. And so that was kind of the last last gasp for the music industry in a lot of ways. And at least from the artist perspective, but I think from the listener's perspective as well, it's kind of been circling the drain for a while now. But, I've been podcasting for about 12 years, so a few people had kinda pointed me in the direction of, of course, the the work of the legendary Adam Curry, but also kind of the value for value value versus space.
And so I'd seen a few kind of early websites. I think it was from Abel and the the Wolf and another Abel. There aren't many of us Yeah. But also spells his name differently, Abel Kirby. And so I a few people had sent me that way, but it wasn't actually until earlier this year of 2024 that a few folks in the Austin scene where I live, I've been into Bitcoin since 2017 or so as a technology and also just as an alternative. So once I heard that kind of the the audio world, of podcasting was merging with the world of of music with this cutting edge new tech, I'm just like, this is absolutely incredible. Oh, yeah. So, at Bitcoin,
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conference in Nash Nashville earlier this summer, I got to connect with with Ainsley and Joe Martin and the folks behind, you know, Toonster, Wave Lake, Fountain, and and so many other folks. So that was just really incredible. Awesome. And I just and as a note there, I'm gonna be talking to Ainsley later this week, and she'll be appearing here, or showing up with us next week. We're gonna talk about some stuff with some of her music, some some stuff she enjoys, as well as the the live show coming up in Austin. Before we move on to our so a little bit more talking with Abel, let's go ahead and hit another another couple tracks out of the value verse. This one is from James m Carson, and it is called should have known better.
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Some harbor and be so extreme. They want to keep you from your dreams. They like to be there when you're on your knees scared.
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Better. Of the matter like a small little boy.
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Popping in here real quick. We've got a track coming up that is being played specifically because of the person who has put it out there. If you're familiar with no agenda and the whole community around that, then you know who Comic Strep Blogger is. CSB, has done tons of artwork and things for No Agenda. He's very prominent in the podcast index dot social community, around podcasting 2.0. And he took the time to write the lyrics out for this song and then allowed AI to generate the voice singing it as well as the instrumentation. So I wanted to play that on the show today. I told him I would.
And that track is named Eclair Serenade from CSB comic strip blogger.
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And sweet. Listen to the whiskers in each I I e. Admit it, no one wants such excess. It's always easy to resist the treats. But me, when I see it, Claire's, I can't retreat. I dive into the pastries soft and sweet listening to the whispers in each by IE. Growing up, nothing seemed to change. Little indulgence found more to arrange. Who could love someone so sweetly obsessed? Through the simple pleasure of an eclair. I thought no need to envy the rest. I'll bring smiles with what I love best. I'll pass through layers of chocolate fair singing in the rain of sweet eclairs.
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Eclair's serenade, comic strip blogger, CSB, told him we'd play it, and it was here on m two h two. So I asked Suzanne the same question a minute ago. I'm gonna ask you Abel that exact same question. What's your experience been like in the value verse versus the typical, the traditional Apple Spotify music industry,
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that we've we've heard people talk about and deal with. Yeah. It's bizarre. The traditional model has become so hopeless for a lot of, new musicians as well as long time musicians that they hardly even, like, bother to try to make money out of it because it's it's offensive when you get many 1,000 or even 1,000,000 of plays and then you get a check for, you know, $12 or $3 or $27 or whatever it is. And it's so far below a working wage for a lot of the musicians. We have to figure out other alternatives. And, that, you know, it doesn't have to be this way at all. Like like I said, when I was younger, we could sell our our CDs. We didn't have to resort to just selling merch or trying to sell tickets at live, concerts.
So I think that, you know, now that so many folks are developing in the nostril space as well as in in podcasting and and open source technologies. We don't need to have these middlemen who have been a part of the process in the traditional music industry for a long, long time, who have basically taken all of the the control and power away from the musicians largely, including often artistic control, as well as taking all of the money at the same time. Now that we have the tech available to us, it's just a matter of finding enough artists and enough audience to help it scale to the point where, you know, we'll have to be building this in parallel to the traditional systems in the Spotify's and Apple's out there. But at some point, and I think pretty quickly, it could start to make those those models look obsolete because there can be a lot more opportunity for interesting things to happen when artists are rewarded for spending their time putting out great music. And that that applies to DJs as well. You know, like people should be rewarded for finding
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new music and helping break new artists. Oh, thank thank you for that sentiment there. We're gonna go to another track here in the value verse before we talk to Abel about one of his tracks, one that I always enjoy called Voodoo Queen. Before we get there, though, we're gonna head over and listen to Emily Deranged with her track, breaking up.
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I haven't seen you in a while, I know.
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Last time I heard from you, I hung up the phone.
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Of my grief. We had a fun. But honestly, we broke through the end we were gonna meet. All I've is a bitch and we can't bitch about it. We score and
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Open my eyes. 2 weeks in Nashville here on m two h two. We're gonna we're gonna hear one of Abel's tracks right now. But first, Abel, I want you to tell us. Give us a little bit of background into your track, Voodoo Queen.
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Yeah. It kinda started with a guitar riff. And it's one of those songs that that has just evolved over the years. It's it's, I've been playing it with multiple groups and just by myself solo as well so many different times that it always comes out in a different way. But the, the gist of the song is kind of about a a young man's experience with meeting a woman, and just femininity in general that completely overpower overpowers his logical senses and helps him believe that there's something more to the equation. There's there's magic involved. But from a musical standpoint, it's kind of funky and hopefully gets you to to rock out. One of the things in particular too, it was produced by Denny Hemmingsen, who's just a fantastic talent and been in the music scene out of Nashville for a long, long time.
And and, you know, for him to put this music together, and to play a lot of the guitar on it as well was just, like, such an extreme joy and allows me to really go into a low register with my voice that is difficult to recreate for live performance, if that makes sense. So I really enjoyed being in the studio for this one.
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Well, I set a bedroom. We're the voodoo queen. This cold sweat is clinging to my bones. She's like a tigress, and I'm trembling because I know she's sharpening her claws. Lord, I can't escape this tangle whip she eats. Stirring up that witch's brew. Lord, I can't escape this tango where she Well, I set a bedroom with a voodoo queen. This cold sweat to you singing to my bone. She's like a tigress, and I'm trembling because I know she's sharpening her claw.
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Hey, everybody. My name is Jim Costello, and I am the host of the Phantom Power Music Hour. Couple times a month, we try to bring you the very best, the very latest in music in the value verse. Songs from artists who believe in the power of Bitcoin, songs from artists who believe in the power of value for value. You might hear rock. You might hear jazz. You might hear world music. You might hear hip hop. You never know what you're gonna hear. It's kinda like college radio on acid. Hope you join us for the Phantom Power Music Hour.
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I got the itch.
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I got the itch. Turn on the sleeves and you try to keep the shakes away. Until you watch so much, I'm the
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I got the itch.
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Son of a bitch gonna blow my little mind away. I got the itch. Turn on the sneezed, then you try to keep the shakes away. Tell me once a while, I'm the fell. You can find another way.
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I got the
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The Itch by the retrograde just so happens. I chose that song to play. And while it was playing, Abel and I had a little discussion. Hey, Abel. Would you won't you share with the listeners what it is you you were talking about with with that track, the itch? Yeah. In so many ways, this is part of the inroads to,
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the value for value space for me. It was one of the first shows that, that one of my tunes from Swamp Thing was played on. Mhmm. I was listening to that that podcast and and that music show eventually. And once I tracked it down and found it, I was listening to the rest of the show and, like, the other tunes that were on there. And I'm like, is this value for value space for real or not? Like, what Yeah. Is it gonna be absolutely terrible if we're I'm put on these shows with, like, garbage artists or whatever. And it was so much the opposite. When I heard the the itch next to one of my tunes, I was beyond psyched because it's like Nice. An another incarnation of the Black Crowes kinda like live music sound with just absolutely max level talent
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and incredible performance. So I was really honored to be in their company. You also you you told me that you really, really enjoyed because you're friends with the artist who recorded this, but you really like the track
[01:06:10] Unknown:
A Whole Lotta Trouble by SOB and the Dang. Would you tell the audience about that a little bit? Yeah. So Stacy moved to Austin, Texas a similar time as as I did back in, I I think for her, it was 2,007 and I was in 2,008. And so we had played in multiple projects and and bands together. We've known each other for a long time. Mhmm. When she announced that she was starting up her own live project for SOB and the Danks here in Austin, Texas a few months ago, she wanted me to come out and and potentially play with the band. And I had so much fun reconnecting with them and jamming with them. A few of the members are, you know, just, like, legendary in the Austin scene and have played with all of my favorite bands pretty much. Mhmm. So it's a nice, big funky swampy rootsy kind of ska sound that that crosses so many genres and barriers. It's a joy to play with them, and, a lot of the music says something too. So that's really important, when you're listening to tunes that like, is it frivolous, or does it actually mean something? And a lot of the stuff coming from SOB definitely means something. Alright. Let's check it out. Whole Lotta Love by SOB
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and the dangz.
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Rebel Hero, Money Not Misery. Awesome track. I believe Rebel Hero somehow connected with our man, Jimmy v. Not sure. I think so, though. I think Jimmy v may be involved with helping to produce that. But rebel hero, awesome band. They are out of Canada. Some great tracks in the value verse. We heard that one there. Big shout out and a thank you to Abel James for joining us on the show tonight. Abel will be playing live December 16th at Anton's for Adam Curry's boost to gram ball live. So make sure you check that out either in person or catch it streaming in a modern podcast app so that you can see what's going on. And be sure that you boost during the show. The interactive elements are gonna be in place. Lights will be going off, smoke machines, all kinds of really cool stuff. So make sure you're involved heavily with that show, and thank you again, Abel. Quick shout out. We had some Satch streamed to the show this week from a user on fountain, Odysee Wester. Thank you, Odysee Wester. Appreciate that. You can be just like just like Odysee and get your amazing name thrown out there for sharing with the show. And we had a boost come in, and I didn't hear the sound go off. You may not have heard it either. We had a boost come in from v for v specialist, 333 sets, boosting rebel hero, money not misery. Thank you, v for v specialist.
Appreciate that tremendously. The show tonight has been different than what we've done in the past. We had 2 guests on, not something we normally do. We will have a guest next week. We'll be speaking with Ainsley Costello. Ainsley, the queen of the value scene, will be, on the show. We'll be talking about some of her music, some things other music she likes, the value verse, as well as playing lots of tracks in the value verse, and talking about potentially Adam Curry's boost to gram ball live on December 16th in Austin, Texas.
We got one more thing to do before we take off with our last track, and that's we have to wake up our friend, Andy, again. Hey, Andy. Andy. Andy. Yes, Randy. Again, remind our listeners. So if they're listening now, they know in the future. What are the 3 rules of m two h two? Rule number 1, you must listen in a modern podcast app. Rule number 2, you must stream sats while you listen.
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Rule number 3, if you like the song, you must boost. Boosting is love.
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Boosting is love. Thank you, Andy. Sorry I had to wake you up again. He's over there in the corner of the studio kinda kickback, relaxed, and sleeping. We're gonna close out the show with one last song, and that is from our friend of the show, the one and only, the man, the myth, the legend, sir TJ the wrathful. This is a track he's put out that I found the other day, and I absolutely fell in love with. It is an instrumental, but it's still awesome. So sir TJ the raffle is bringing us metal in the banjo.
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What if they want an encore? You unplug and you run, run off stage. Smiling, smiling, of course. No encore.
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Go podcasting.
It's very important you don't stink today. Hey. I make no guarantees.
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This value for value music show was produced at Johns Creek Studios in Milton, West Virginia. To learn more, head over to Johns Creek Studios dotcom. Johns Creek Studios, where podcast dreams come to life.
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Well, take us there, Skitch.
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Up in the mountains where the tallpines sway, folks gather around at the end of the day. No ticket needed. Just bring your sats. Value for value. How cool is that? M 2h 2. Let's raise a cheer with value for value. The vision stays clear.
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That was is this it. By almost December, found that one brand new in the value verse as I prepared the show for this week. We're here on episode number 25. It's December 3, 2024. Remember that this show is all about bringing value for value. We're bringing you the artists, and we want you to then in turn provide value back to them. I have a friend who's gonna join us here in just a second, so let me get his attention. He seems to have fallen asleep on the other side of the studio here. Andy. Andy. Yes, Randy? Andy, can you do me a favor, and can you share the rules of m two h two with the audience just to remind them what they are? Rule number 1,
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you must listen in a modern podcast app. Rule number 2, you must stream sats while you listen. Rule number 3, if you like the song, you must boost. Boosting is love.
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Thank you very much, Andy. I also wanna welcome to the show someone who's been brand new to the value verse. We played her on the show last week, and that is Suzanne Santo.
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I'm, like, very excited to be part of the Valueverse, and and I'm excited to figure it out as I go. We are so happy to to have you here, Suzanne.
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And remember, as as the podfather says, we're all running with scissors. We're trying to figure this stuff out as we go too. We're lucky that it all just seems to work. We're gonna dive in to our next track. We're gonna go for a track set of 2 coming up here in just a second. And to kick that off, we're gonna reach out to one of my favorite artists in the value verse and check out this track from Ambleton called recovery.
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You know I'm not where I wanna be, but I'm here right now. I guess that this is recovery, and I should settle down.
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Give me a song that I won't sing it louder
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Check out the It's a Moon value for value music podcast. I'm your host, Mike Newman. Kiddie. It's like taking a trip around the radio dial. Boost. It's a hit. I'm a Gen x mix tape kid. Since I
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I heard this one on the It's A Mood podcast, fell in love with it immediately.
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Jazz, prop, alt, alt, punk, r and b, cinematic, EDM, soul, classical, doesn't matter. I follow one simple rule. If I like it, I play it.
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It's a mood, hosted by Mike Newman, a great value for value show out there. Please go. Take the time and check it out, and give Mike some support, as well as the artist he plays on that show. Before that promo, though, we had a track from Ben p Williams from his album Benthousiasm called We Can All sing along. Awesome track. Another one that I found while prepping for the show this week. It's newer in the value verse, and I just felt like it needed to be played here on m two h two. Programming note, and I'll remind you this over the next couple weeks. The week of Christmas. Christmas Eve is on a Tuesday when the show is typically live. There will not be a show that Tuesday evening. Instead, we are going to do the show the day before on Monday, December 23rd.
So if you need to mark your calendars, go right ahead. But Monday, December 23rd at 8 PM that evening. So it's gonna be an hour later than usual. We'll have a live stream and recording of m two h two taking place here from Johns Creek Studios in beautiful Milton, West Virginia. We still have our guest here on the show, Suzanne Santo. Suzanne, what's what's the time you've seen so far? What what's your experience been like with the Valueverse versus what you've seen from the traditional
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music industry? It's funny. You know, the music industry, unless you're a touring musician, which I am, but I'm a mother of a 13 month old and I have a stepdaughter and, like, I love to be with my family. But, like, unless you're touring all the time, like, it's really hard to make a living. And I let go of my pain with that a long time ago. I I really feel like it. For a while, I was just sort of, like, submitting to the fact that it was like, this is an active service at this point. I'm making my own records and putting my own money into it, and then I'd rather do that than have a record company own my music at this point. And I've I've done that for many years. I've I've had lots of record deals and stuff, but, like, I'm just really interested in how this is all working. And and even if I'm not in the the club anymore, which I'm really happy not to be, like the, you know, the Spotify, the that old song and dance music industry. I I'm looking for a new crowd. You know? I'm looking for a community that cares about art and and values it, and not just with music, but with film and television and and all kinds of things. And I think that, I think there's a real deficit of good content in in our lives now where, like, you know, everything's screened and and people's attention spans are that of a field mouse. We're trained. You know, we're trained in these 12 second clips or whatever is happening to our children. Oh, yeah. The the algo has got us hooked big time. I mean, it's it's it's bad. But so far in the value verse, Suzanne, what what results have you have you seen? So far, I've made more money on the value verse than I have in 3 years on Spotify. Nice. Yeah.
Spotify, I've had, like I I've had some some good, you know, runs here and there with, like, my first solo record and my old band and, like but I remember, like, a couple years back, like, getting my quarterly statements from BMI, and and it's saying, like, you know, I had, like, 32,000 plays on one of my songs, and I got $5. Oh. And so that kind of thing, it it and it used to break my heart. I'm happy that so far, I've got, like, a couple tanks of gas out of this thing. Nice.
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We'll get back with you in just a second, Suzanne, because we got 2 more tracks to play that we're gonna go, and we're gonna listen to your track worried, but I wanna hear the story behind that song, before we play it. Before that, though, we're gonna go to our next track, and this is from Ben Jonesy Jones, and it is called a sign of things to come.
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See? 1,000 of years stuck to the ocean bottom out of the blue.
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Theo Katzmann with be the wheel. Heard about that track from sir TJ the raffle. Theo is a was a member of or is a member of the band, Wolf Peck. He kinda stuck the middle finger up to Spotify a couple years back, early on and got a fan group to, stream an album on repeat that was nothing but silence. And Spotify was then forced to pay out, kind of a, like, you know, a little middle finger to Spotify. Theo released that song is here into the value verse recently. And thank you TJ for finding that track and sharing it with all of us here in the value verse. We're gonna go right now and get ready to listen to a song we heard last week, but she's here, so I wanna give her a chance to tell us about it. So, Suzanne, if you can, just intro, give us the backstory on your track, worried.
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Full transparency. I lived in Los Angeles for a long time, for 20 years, and I'm originally from Cleveland, Ohio. I'm a Midwesterner at heart. When I lived in Los Angeles, I'm ashamed to say some of my politics were misinformed, and I found myself on a side that, was making me crazy, amongst other things like my cell phone and social media. And I felt like it was like an abusive relationship or something where you you kind of sacrifice your own agency, and it made me a little crazy. I I found myself worried all the time about everything. And that's not to say switching my politics, which I've done, makes me any less worried. I'm probably more worried now. I just have a better relationship with it. But I found that just the way even just let's take politics out of it. Just the way that we're informed now with global news in your pocket every second of the day, There's something very inhuman and unnatural about it, and I've had to work hard to maintain better relationship with with it and myself, which is I pretty much take it off my phone at all times unless I need to post something for music, which is a really interesting topic to bring up, especially talking about the value verse and this song because I found myself in this position as as the music industry has progressed, you have to have all these things in order to have a career. Like, you have to have your social media. You have to be active on it. And in these ways that, again, are inhuman and become contrived and I'm like a musician performer since I was a child, and and I've always loved it. And there used to be a time when, like, you'd make videos and it was fun, and you'd kinda have a new bit or something. And I'm I'm a big fan of comedy, so I've enjoyed those aspects of social media to a degree. But then when it became a requirement like TikTok, like, I just won't do it. I'd rather be, present in my life. And so worried kinda came out of this feeling of just being taken over by all of it. You know, the sum of all the parts of of social media, whether you're on x or Instagram or Facebook or whatever, TikTok. You're kind of relinquishing your natural ability to connect with people, and and you have these weird versions of yourself that aren't genuine. Put a filter on so your skin looks nicer and that kind of stuff. I'm really fascinated by and saddened mostly for our kids, but fascinated by how this has affected people and their mental health. So, you know, I know how it affected me, and I'm I feel grateful to to say that I got out of it. I don't let it take me over anymore.
Mhmm. But I've always been a sensitive kid. I used to watch this show Rescue 911, and, like, it would be these, like it would be like a disaster show. Oh, yeah. It would be like, you know, that's like the one show. Right? It would keep me up at night. You know, like, this kid fell down a well, and they had to go get her. And, you know, this kid got dragged into a lake by an alligator. And so I I would have this, like, catastrophizing even then just from the one little show that was the closest to reality TV in the nineties, which that never happened, but it did. Here we are. I've always had this worrisome way about me thinking the worst. And now it's like a way that people communicate, and it's like the only way some people live. And I have empathy for it, but I also know better. This song is part of my catharsis and understanding of my own self discovery as they all are really. But, yeah, that's where it comes from.
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worry
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all day
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because I let you take the wheel. Then you drove me crazy, made me feel the way you feel. Now
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Upbeats is I love salty crayons. Upbeats is my favorite. It's like it's like the old pirate radio days. Hell, yeah. If you're tired of the same mainstream crap, where they're just playing slave music all day, then come on over to Upbeats with me, salty crayon, where I'm playing like the gen x kid I am, mixtape music. No genres here, just producers. And when you're not slaving away at your job, go ahead and put me on throughout your day. Hell, yeah. That's Upbeatz with Salty Crayon.
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It's a great name, buddy. Salty Crayon is a great DJ name. I love that.
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Fooling, fooling. People wanna hear a heartbreak in a hotel room. Missin' the person lying next to you. Wanna know how it hurts and how you're holding on by your face.
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2 ways home hear a heartbreak. That's a brand new one out there. That album came out November 1st. 2 ways home is a duo from the UK, and they've put that out into the value verse so that we can enjoy it, we can love it, and we can send value back to them for what they've shared. I wanna thank Suzanne for giving up some time to join us here on the show this week. It was a great chance to to talk with her and to let her share the story of her song worried as well as what her experience has been like here in the value verse.
Suzanne is going to, I believe, be appearing on December 16th. That's a short time from now in Austin, Texas at Anton's, for the, live event taking place that night, Adam Curry's boostogram ball live. If you could be there live, tickets are available. You can go to the show and enjoy it. If you can't be there live, like, I personally will not be able to travel to Austin, Texas for this show. You can catch it live in a modern podcast app. It'll be streaming live. If you interact with the show, sending in boosts and things, there'll be some interactive elements that take place there, in the building.
We do have a second guest joining us tonight here on m two h two, and that is a man whose music I have found to be absolutely enjoyable. I love it. Abel James, why don't you tell us a little bit about your origins into the value verse?
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Yeah. It's a strange little world. It feels early. But, I have a few gray hairs now after all these years. And so I was around kinda kicking around the music scene as a teenager in the late nineties. So, like, I remember a time when you could upload your music and even sell your music, not just through streaming, but also through direct downloads. And so that was kind of the last last gasp for the music industry in a lot of ways. And at least from the artist perspective, but I think from the listener's perspective as well, it's kind of been circling the drain for a while now. But, I've been podcasting for about 12 years, so a few people had kinda pointed me in the direction of, of course, the the work of the legendary Adam Curry, but also kind of the value for value value versus space.
And so I'd seen a few kind of early websites. I think it was from Abel and the the Wolf and another Abel. There aren't many of us Yeah. But also spells his name differently, Abel Kirby. And so I a few people had sent me that way, but it wasn't actually until earlier this year of 2024 that a few folks in the Austin scene where I live, I've been into Bitcoin since 2017 or so as a technology and also just as an alternative. So once I heard that kind of the the audio world, of podcasting was merging with the world of of music with this cutting edge new tech, I'm just like, this is absolutely incredible. Oh, yeah. So, at Bitcoin,
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conference in Nash Nashville earlier this summer, I got to connect with with Ainsley and Joe Martin and the folks behind, you know, Toonster, Wave Lake, Fountain, and and so many other folks. So that was just really incredible. Awesome. And I just and as a note there, I'm gonna be talking to Ainsley later this week, and she'll be appearing here, or showing up with us next week. We're gonna talk about some stuff with some of her music, some some stuff she enjoys, as well as the the live show coming up in Austin. Before we move on to our so a little bit more talking with Abel, let's go ahead and hit another another couple tracks out of the value verse. This one is from James m Carson, and it is called should have known better.
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Some harbor and be so extreme. They want to keep you from your dreams. They like to be there when you're on your knees scared.
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Better. Of the matter like a small little boy.
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Popping in here real quick. We've got a track coming up that is being played specifically because of the person who has put it out there. If you're familiar with no agenda and the whole community around that, then you know who Comic Strep Blogger is. CSB, has done tons of artwork and things for No Agenda. He's very prominent in the podcast index dot social community, around podcasting 2.0. And he took the time to write the lyrics out for this song and then allowed AI to generate the voice singing it as well as the instrumentation. So I wanted to play that on the show today. I told him I would.
And that track is named Eclair Serenade from CSB comic strip blogger.
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And sweet. Listen to the whiskers in each I I e. Admit it, no one wants such excess. It's always easy to resist the treats. But me, when I see it, Claire's, I can't retreat. I dive into the pastries soft and sweet listening to the whispers in each by IE. Growing up, nothing seemed to change. Little indulgence found more to arrange. Who could love someone so sweetly obsessed? Through the simple pleasure of an eclair. I thought no need to envy the rest. I'll bring smiles with what I love best. I'll pass through layers of chocolate fair singing in the rain of sweet eclairs.
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Eclair's serenade, comic strip blogger, CSB, told him we'd play it, and it was here on m two h two. So I asked Suzanne the same question a minute ago. I'm gonna ask you Abel that exact same question. What's your experience been like in the value verse versus the typical, the traditional Apple Spotify music industry,
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that we've we've heard people talk about and deal with. Yeah. It's bizarre. The traditional model has become so hopeless for a lot of, new musicians as well as long time musicians that they hardly even, like, bother to try to make money out of it because it's it's offensive when you get many 1,000 or even 1,000,000 of plays and then you get a check for, you know, $12 or $3 or $27 or whatever it is. And it's so far below a working wage for a lot of the musicians. We have to figure out other alternatives. And, that, you know, it doesn't have to be this way at all. Like like I said, when I was younger, we could sell our our CDs. We didn't have to resort to just selling merch or trying to sell tickets at live, concerts.
So I think that, you know, now that so many folks are developing in the nostril space as well as in in podcasting and and open source technologies. We don't need to have these middlemen who have been a part of the process in the traditional music industry for a long, long time, who have basically taken all of the the control and power away from the musicians largely, including often artistic control, as well as taking all of the money at the same time. Now that we have the tech available to us, it's just a matter of finding enough artists and enough audience to help it scale to the point where, you know, we'll have to be building this in parallel to the traditional systems in the Spotify's and Apple's out there. But at some point, and I think pretty quickly, it could start to make those those models look obsolete because there can be a lot more opportunity for interesting things to happen when artists are rewarded for spending their time putting out great music. And that that applies to DJs as well. You know, like people should be rewarded for finding
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new music and helping break new artists. Oh, thank thank you for that sentiment there. We're gonna go to another track here in the value verse before we talk to Abel about one of his tracks, one that I always enjoy called Voodoo Queen. Before we get there, though, we're gonna head over and listen to Emily Deranged with her track, breaking up.
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I haven't seen you in a while, I know.
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Last time I heard from you, I hung up the phone.
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Of my grief. We had a fun. But honestly, we broke through the end we were gonna meet. All I've is a bitch and we can't bitch about it. We score and
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Open my eyes. 2 weeks in Nashville here on m two h two. We're gonna we're gonna hear one of Abel's tracks right now. But first, Abel, I want you to tell us. Give us a little bit of background into your track, Voodoo Queen.
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Yeah. It kinda started with a guitar riff. And it's one of those songs that that has just evolved over the years. It's it's, I've been playing it with multiple groups and just by myself solo as well so many different times that it always comes out in a different way. But the, the gist of the song is kind of about a a young man's experience with meeting a woman, and just femininity in general that completely overpower overpowers his logical senses and helps him believe that there's something more to the equation. There's there's magic involved. But from a musical standpoint, it's kind of funky and hopefully gets you to to rock out. One of the things in particular too, it was produced by Denny Hemmingsen, who's just a fantastic talent and been in the music scene out of Nashville for a long, long time.
And and, you know, for him to put this music together, and to play a lot of the guitar on it as well was just, like, such an extreme joy and allows me to really go into a low register with my voice that is difficult to recreate for live performance, if that makes sense. So I really enjoyed being in the studio for this one.
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Well, I set a bedroom. We're the voodoo queen. This cold sweat is clinging to my bones. She's like a tigress, and I'm trembling because I know she's sharpening her claws. Lord, I can't escape this tangle whip she eats. Stirring up that witch's brew. Lord, I can't escape this tango where she Well, I set a bedroom with a voodoo queen. This cold sweat to you singing to my bone. She's like a tigress, and I'm trembling because I know she's sharpening her claw.
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Hey, everybody. My name is Jim Costello, and I am the host of the Phantom Power Music Hour. Couple times a month, we try to bring you the very best, the very latest in music in the value verse. Songs from artists who believe in the power of Bitcoin, songs from artists who believe in the power of value for value. You might hear rock. You might hear jazz. You might hear world music. You might hear hip hop. You never know what you're gonna hear. It's kinda like college radio on acid. Hope you join us for the Phantom Power Music Hour.
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I got the itch.
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I got the itch. Turn on the sleeves and you try to keep the shakes away. Until you watch so much, I'm the
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I got the itch.
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Son of a bitch gonna blow my little mind away. I got the itch. Turn on the sneezed, then you try to keep the shakes away. Tell me once a while, I'm the fell. You can find another way.
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I got the
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The Itch by the retrograde just so happens. I chose that song to play. And while it was playing, Abel and I had a little discussion. Hey, Abel. Would you won't you share with the listeners what it is you you were talking about with with that track, the itch? Yeah. In so many ways, this is part of the inroads to,
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the value for value space for me. It was one of the first shows that, that one of my tunes from Swamp Thing was played on. Mhmm. I was listening to that that podcast and and that music show eventually. And once I tracked it down and found it, I was listening to the rest of the show and, like, the other tunes that were on there. And I'm like, is this value for value space for real or not? Like, what Yeah. Is it gonna be absolutely terrible if we're I'm put on these shows with, like, garbage artists or whatever. And it was so much the opposite. When I heard the the itch next to one of my tunes, I was beyond psyched because it's like Nice. An another incarnation of the Black Crowes kinda like live music sound with just absolutely max level talent
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and incredible performance. So I was really honored to be in their company. You also you you told me that you really, really enjoyed because you're friends with the artist who recorded this, but you really like the track
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A Whole Lotta Trouble by SOB and the Dang. Would you tell the audience about that a little bit? Yeah. So Stacy moved to Austin, Texas a similar time as as I did back in, I I think for her, it was 2,007 and I was in 2,008. And so we had played in multiple projects and and bands together. We've known each other for a long time. Mhmm. When she announced that she was starting up her own live project for SOB and the Danks here in Austin, Texas a few months ago, she wanted me to come out and and potentially play with the band. And I had so much fun reconnecting with them and jamming with them. A few of the members are, you know, just, like, legendary in the Austin scene and have played with all of my favorite bands pretty much. Mhmm. So it's a nice, big funky swampy rootsy kind of ska sound that that crosses so many genres and barriers. It's a joy to play with them, and, a lot of the music says something too. So that's really important, when you're listening to tunes that like, is it frivolous, or does it actually mean something? And a lot of the stuff coming from SOB definitely means something. Alright. Let's check it out. Whole Lotta Love by SOB
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and the dangz.
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Rebel Hero, Money Not Misery. Awesome track. I believe Rebel Hero somehow connected with our man, Jimmy v. Not sure. I think so, though. I think Jimmy v may be involved with helping to produce that. But rebel hero, awesome band. They are out of Canada. Some great tracks in the value verse. We heard that one there. Big shout out and a thank you to Abel James for joining us on the show tonight. Abel will be playing live December 16th at Anton's for Adam Curry's boost to gram ball live. So make sure you check that out either in person or catch it streaming in a modern podcast app so that you can see what's going on. And be sure that you boost during the show. The interactive elements are gonna be in place. Lights will be going off, smoke machines, all kinds of really cool stuff. So make sure you're involved heavily with that show, and thank you again, Abel. Quick shout out. We had some Satch streamed to the show this week from a user on fountain, Odysee Wester. Thank you, Odysee Wester. Appreciate that. You can be just like just like Odysee and get your amazing name thrown out there for sharing with the show. And we had a boost come in, and I didn't hear the sound go off. You may not have heard it either. We had a boost come in from v for v specialist, 333 sets, boosting rebel hero, money not misery. Thank you, v for v specialist.
Appreciate that tremendously. The show tonight has been different than what we've done in the past. We had 2 guests on, not something we normally do. We will have a guest next week. We'll be speaking with Ainsley Costello. Ainsley, the queen of the value scene, will be, on the show. We'll be talking about some of her music, some things other music she likes, the value verse, as well as playing lots of tracks in the value verse, and talking about potentially Adam Curry's boost to gram ball live on December 16th in Austin, Texas.
We got one more thing to do before we take off with our last track, and that's we have to wake up our friend, Andy, again. Hey, Andy. Andy. Andy. Yes, Randy. Again, remind our listeners. So if they're listening now, they know in the future. What are the 3 rules of m two h two? Rule number 1, you must listen in a modern podcast app. Rule number 2, you must stream sats while you listen.
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Rule number 3, if you like the song, you must boost. Boosting is love.
[01:18:11] Unknown:
Boosting is love. Thank you, Andy. Sorry I had to wake you up again. He's over there in the corner of the studio kinda kickback, relaxed, and sleeping. We're gonna close out the show with one last song, and that is from our friend of the show, the one and only, the man, the myth, the legend, sir TJ the wrathful. This is a track he's put out that I found the other day, and I absolutely fell in love with. It is an instrumental, but it's still awesome. So sir TJ the raffle is bringing us metal in the banjo.
[01:21:40] Unknown:
What if they want an encore? You unplug and you run, run off stage. Smiling, smiling, of course. No encore.
[01:21:48] Unknown:
Go podcasting.
Show Opening
Introduction/Show Rules/Welcome to Suzanne
Programming note and Suzanne discussed the music industry and the Valueverse
The backstory of "Worried" by Suzanne Santo
Thank you to Suzanne, welcoming Abel James, and Abel shares his origins to the Valueverse
Abel James discusses the differences between the traditional music industry and the Valueverse
Abel James shares the backstory of his song "Voodoo Queen"
Abel talks about why he loves "The Itch" and "Whole Lotta Trouble"
Last break segment with a huge thanks to Abel James and final review of the rules of M2H2
